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RUNCIMAN FAMILY

Elizabeth Brown Scott (nee Runciman) died 23/3/1910 aged 78 from Senile Debility and Maleana at Thames.

Father George Runciman, farmer

Mother Elizabeth Runciman, nee Dalgleish. Born Berwick Scotland. In NZ 59 years

Married Robert Scott 22 years ago in Auckland.Living issue M 51, 50, 47 F 55, 53, 46, 45, 42, 40

The Runciman Family also came to New Zealand on the "Cashmere" but on an earlier voyage arriving at Auckland 10/10/1851.

The family members were parents George Runciman and Elizabeth nee Dalgleish and adult children , Barbara 1819-1858 born Ayton,Walter 1830, Margaret 1828-1888,Elizabeth 1832-1910, Robert 1835- 1921 born Foulden,and Jane 1835-1917 and Isabella 1840.

George Runciman Elizabeth Runciman nee Dalgleish

Death certificates for George and Elizabeth Runciman are as follows:

George Runciman died 0n 20/11/ 1877 aged 85 of Paralysis at Papatoetoe. He was a farmer.

Father James Runciman farmer, Mother Agnes Runciman nee Herriot.

Buried Papatoetoe 22/11/1877. Presbyterian

Born Berwickshire. Married 25 years old at Duns, Scotland to Elizabeth Dalgleish. Informant Robert. Present at death. Issue living 2 Males 4 Females

Elizabeth Runciman died 4/9/1887 at Liverpool, South Auckland of Senile Decay. She was a widow aged 88 years.

Father Walter Dalgleish occupation a miller. Mother Barbara Dalgleish nee Anderson

Buried Otahuhu. 36 years in NZ married Scotland aged 29 years to George Runciman. Issue M 44 F 59.51.43.41

The banns for George and Elizabeth Dalgleish's marriage were both in Ayton and Duns. In Duns we find 5th May 1818 George Runciman labourer, Cocklaw, Ayton and Elizabeth Dalgleish daughter of Walter Dalgleish miller Clockmill. Withnesses Walter Dalgleish and David White.

This family is very hard to trace as we cannot find births of most of the children but in the 1841 Berwick upon Tweed Census district 15 New Farm (last farm on West side of Main Berwick- Lamberton Toll Rd before Scottish border)

George Runciman 45 Agr Lab Sc Elizabeth Runciman 43 Sc

Barbara Runciman 20 Sc Margaret Runciman 15 Sc

Walter Runciman 12 Sc Elizabeth Runciman 9 Sc

Robert Runciman 5 Sc Jane Runciman 4 Sc

Isabella Runciman 2 Sc

1851 Census Scremerston Inland Pasture Farm

Head Robert Hogarth 67 farmer employing 15 men and 15 women

George Runciman 52 H Agr Lab Sc Elizabeth Runciman 60 Sc ( more likely 50)

Walter Runciman 12 s u Agri Lab Berwick upon Tweed

Elizabeth Runciman 18 D U Bondager Berwick upon Tweed

Robert Runciman 15 U Ag Lab Sc Isabella Runciman 11 Berwick upon Tweed

Also on farm Jacob Dalgleish aged 29 Ag Lab. born Scotland

In Ford 1851

Margaret Runciman servant aged 24 born Sc. This may be our Margaret

Note in 1841 they believed they were in Scotland on New Farm but in 1851 when they had moved South of Berwick on Tweed they have listed the children born there as English.

George and Elizabeth's daughter Margaret married her cousin James, son of Thomas and Isabella who first settled at Rust Av Whangarei in the 1840's but moved to Auckland. The settlement of Runciman south of Drury is named after them.

Thomas and Isabella's other children were Jane 1831-1919 (Mrs Young), Agnes 1833-1859 Mrs Rhodes, Adam 1835-1835, John 1836 single, Isabella born1840 -1928 Mrs Carter, Georgina Whangarei 1843-1935 single.

It has been disputed whether Thomas who came to New Zealand on "Nimrod" to Korarareka in1839 was a cousin or brother of George but a page from James and Margaret Runciman's family Bible seems to confirm they were brothers. It states:

James Runciman born 15 August 1763 died....

Agnes R" " 22 September 1760 (23/12/1759 Cocklaw,Berwickshire )

Janet " 26 April 1786 never married John " 12 March 1789 (12/3/1789 Cocklaw, Berwickshire)

James " 26/4/1791 died Ohio

George " 29/5/1793 (28/5/1793 Ayton) died New Zealand 20/11/1877 Elizabeth Dalgleish his wife

Jean " 18/5/1796 died married James Mack 22/5/1796 Ayton)

Thomas " 5/9/1799 died NZ 21/11/1866 (17/9/1798 Ayton)

Isabella Linton his wife born 1800 died NZ 2/6/1880

David 14/2/1801 (14/2/1801 Ayton)

David born 1801 assumed to be the gunner/driver serving Gibraltar for 15 years to 1837, and shown as 19, carpenter, born Ayton when he enlisted in 1822 David Runciman married Mary McKay, daughter of Alexander McKay, on 15 Sep 1826 at Edinburgh St Cuthberts, MLN, SCT, entry reads: David Runciman, Joiner, Residing in No 3 Catherine Street and Mary Mackay Residing in Same Place, both in this parish Daughter of the late Alexander Mackay, Joiner in Tain, have been three times proclaimed in order to Marriage in the Parish Church of St Cuthberts, and no Objections have been Offered.

Married on the fifteenth Current by the Reverend George Paxton, Minister of the Associate Session Congregation, Infirmary Street, Edinburgh

David Runchman died on 12 Aug 1842 at Bullshugh, SEL, SCT, at age 41; entry shows David as 48, cobbler, so IF this is him, and it does seem likely given he was deceased by 1852 and not found in the 1851 census, perhaps the lung disease that ended his military service also enforced a change of occupation?

Parish Record dates in brackets

From this family John Runciman Born 1789 Janet Runciman 25/2/1786 (nee Inglis)

James 26/6/1814 Janet 25/5/1816 married Geo Herriot. To Ontario

Andrew 23/11/1818 John 18/5/1821 died Ohio 16/5/1884

George 17/8/1824 died 1850 Thomas 24/2/1826

John Runciman died at Gavinton 24 Feb 1859 Janet Runciman died at East Barns 28/12/1859

(Some of this family also came to New Zealand.)

James Runciman born 5/8/1829 died 20/7/1899 (line to Thomas born 1799)

Margaret Runciman born 12/1/1828 died 12/9/1888.(line to George born 1793).

Married 15/7/1853 and the following are their children

Elizabeth Linton Macky Runciman 25/8/1854 bapt 2/10/1854 died 19/3/1920

Isabella Jessie Norrie Runciman 27/10/1855 bapt 15/11/1844 died 25/11/1915

Thomas Shipherd Runciman 2/3/1857 bapt 26/4/1857 died 11/3/1914

Margaret Barbary Runciman 4/1/1859 bapt 30/1/1859

George Adam Runciman 24/4/1860 bapt 15/7/1860 died 3/7/1932

A relative in NZ mentions that Walter husband of Christina Clow, son of George according to family lore died in Scotland in the Tay Bridge disaster in 1879. It is said he returned to Scotland to follow up a legacy

James Runciman married Agnes Herriot at Ayton on 17/6/1785. Agnes was born 23/12/1759 at Ayton daughter of John Herriot and Agnes Windram, married 22 April 1759 Ayton . Her siblings were Helen, Jane, James and Alison.

James appears to be James , born 8 August 1762 at Mordington (near Foulden), the son of John Runchiman and Janet Watson. His siblings were an unnamed baby in 1760 and Andrew in 1753. I can’t find the marriage but Janet Watson appears to be the daughter of Thomas Watson and Jeanet Mitsheele (sic Mitchell?) born Foulden 25 September 1720 and her siblings were Helen and Margaret. There were Runciman’s around Duns and Ladykirk since at least the late 1600’s, although a possibility of John’s parents are James Runciman and Janet Livingston who were married 08 March 1711, Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, but the only children on the IGI and OPR are after 1726 at Duns.

We cannot find the birth of John Herriot. There are Herriot’s around Mordington in the late 1690’s . There was a James Herriot buried Mordington House in the 1720’s aged 70 years

By searching the Coldingham Parish records the following tree for the Dalgleish family has been put together.

Elizabeth Dalgleish born 1798 ,was the daughter of Walter Dalgleish and Barbara Anderson . Walter Dalgleish born 28/8/1775 was the son of Robert Dalglish and Margaret Roy who were married 21/5/1773 Coldingham and other siblings were John 1776, Robert 1782, Agnes 1785 . Can’t find Robert Dalglish’s birth somewhere between 1739 and 1750 but he appears to be the son of Walter Dalglish born at Gordon Berwickshire 13/10/1706 who in turn was the son of Robert born 3/10/1680 born Chirnside Berwickshire.

In a letter written by one of Robert Denham’s daughters for a reunion in 1901, Robert Dalgleish married Jeanette (Jenny) Denham at Coldstream bridge and together with several members of the family migrated to the United States in the 1830s. Robert and Jeanette settled in Penfield, Ohio. His parents Walter and Barbara followed in 1838, together with their son Walter Jacob Dalgleish,a nephew, James Wright and also Robert Denham’s future wife Margaret. Barbara (Anderson) Dalgleish took ill on the crossing, was cared for by Margaret but died shortly after landing in the US. She is buried in Jersey City, New Jersey. Apparently the idea of going to America came from Robert Dalgleish’s sister, Mrs James Runciman who painted a picture of a “land of milk and honey where we did not have to work for a penny a day, but gold could be handed us as we passed by, the compost lying in barnyards ready to be hauled to enrich our meadows; that we could not resist the temptation to improve our fortunes.”

Barbara Anderson, born 18/11/1772 at Coldingham, was the daughter of John Anderson and Elizabeth Brown. Other siblings were: George 1770, Janet 1774, Alexander 1779, Jacob 1781,William 1784. John Anderson born 24/10/1743, in turn is the son of George Anderson and Janet Fleeming who were married 4/6/1738 at Coldingham. Other children were Alison 1739, Wiilliam 1741, James 8 Dec 1745, George 1748, Alexander 1751. George Anderson was the son of John Anderson and Alison Cosser married 19/12/1694. Other children Janet Sept 1695, Helen and Anna 28 March 1697, Alison 1698, James 1704, Alexander 1706, William 1708. Janet Fleeming, born 20/9/1713, was the daughter of William Fleming and Mary Muir married 2610/1712 at Coldingham . Only other sibling found was Margaret born 1715.

Elizabeth Brown born 13/12/1743 at Billiemains Bunkle and Preston was the daughter of Alexander Brown